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This thing is really REALLY old!

Netscape is garbage; it's just Mozilla SeaMonkey with AOL crap added. Both are extremely ugly and bloated, however, so I really suggest using stand-alone apps instead. Stand-alone browsers for the Mac that use the same Gecko rendering engine include Camino and Firefox . The stand-alone Gecko-based email client for the Mac is Thunderbird and the stand-alone Gecko-based calendar app is Sunbird

Composer works a little better than standalone versions I've tried, like Nvu.

Eeew. If you're having trouble with sites demanding certain browsers, you can spoof your User Agent with Camino and this plugin:
http://osx.iusethis.com/app/useragent

Netscape 9 is coming soon. Based on Firefox 2.0 codebase.

guys, be a little easier on netscape. the easiest way to lure many a pc user away from internet explorer is by setting netscape as the default browser for their machine and encouraging them to just go with it, or being nice and helping them get used to it. netscape might not be your preference on mac, but it is a very useful tool in getting people on an overpriced inadequately secured os (windows) to start using and becoming acquainted with free, configurable and more than adequately secure software. i have helped many an unskilled windows user stay worlds more secure with netscape. uninformed windows users can be quite stubborn, i have met many of these types and the only web-browsers a lot of them have ever heard of are internet explorer and netscape (probably because those are the only two that came bundled with their pre-configured os), which means those are the only two browsers they would ever use, willingly. mention firefox, opera or kmeleon to your run of the mill windows user and they will have no freaking idea what those names refer to, seriously. so the quickest way to get them off i.e. is to set up netscape for them, and make it their default browser. i do not use it on my mac or on my windows machine, but it is free and it can be a big help. besides, don't any of you remember how fun it was to browse the web with netscape 4 on a system 7 mac!

KDE for Mac OS X?! A new desktop environment?! With no X11?

Okay... but why? Are there apps on OSX that we need to run and that require KDE? This seems more like a "doing it 'cause we can" kinda thing.

yes... think Koctave, or Koffice... you can run this software without X11!! It was great if we could have also GTK on Mac (Gimp without X11...)

ah.... and Amarok!

This comes in VERY handy. For instance, if you're working with graphics, and bitmap oriented such, and want a simple pixel editor, there ain't no one on Mac that is actually working properly. Pixen comes very, very, close, but unfortunately it's too unstable to use.

So, with KDE for Mac, a whole new plaethora of new graphic applications opens up. And, not that I've tried it yet, but I'm sure that I'll find something satisfactory to my needs, i.e. pixel art.

I might need to try out this distro, as I'm trying to build kdelibs from source, and finding out I don't have Qt, among other things--its just a headache. I don't want all the extras though, I just want to try out Amarok. Therefore, I don't want to eat up even 4 gigs of space. I'd love to do without X11 though--that bitch is uuugglllyyyy.

yes but in a full installation there is Koffice (1,5 GB), AmaroK, Konqueror etc... maybe you don't need all this!

FYI, the current build is broken because of some Qt issues.

On the bright side, Qt is split up into two packages so you don't need to install the demos and extras. ;)

I'm working on another build to hopefully fix the runtime issues, but for now, I would recommend skipping this build, only the simplest of apps will run properly.